2007-07-26
Re: Tom, Can I get your assistance?
Kody --
Please let me apologize for my less then "couth" response.
Part of bing an effective coach (especially to teenagers) is knowing exactly what to say that will quickly and efficiently achieve the desired performance goal(s). In this case my goals were:
Your reference to my "vaulters" indicates that you probably followed the link in my July 16th reply, most likely because your somewhat upset and wanted to know just who you were dealing with. This indicates that I likely achieved goal 2. And now when my name shows up in your data, you will hopefully remember it and act on it accordingly.
At this time I have no way direct or indirect way of knowing if I achieved goal 3. (Some lessons are only achieved through repetition.) If I did/do get this point across and you act on the information, it will probably improve your success rate. This would then have been a positive response to the request for "assistance" in subject line your form letter e-mail. You're welcome.
BTW, I'm posting this conversation on my blog.
Sincerely,
Tom Sayles
Moore, Kody wrote:
Note: I made some minor edits to this e-mail when I posted on this blog, first to eliminate a crude body part reference and second to obfuscate my e-mail address in an effort to cut down on th spam I have to wade through each day.
Please let me apologize for my less then "couth" response.
Part of bing an effective coach (especially to teenagers) is knowing exactly what to say that will quickly and efficiently achieve the desired performance goal(s). In this case my goals were:
- Break the attention barrier.
Due to the detailed contact information I deduced that you probably were a real human and not just a spambot. I needed a way to standout from other "sorry not interested" replies. - Make a strong memorable impression.
At a physiological level, strong emotions build the strongest neurological connections in the brain's memory centers. A good coach knows when and how to exploit this fact. - Again try to point out that the information you're working with has serious quality issues.
Both your 07/16/2007 08:41 AM and your 07/25/2007 07:24 AM e-mails have data quality issues that give a first impression that you don't know what's going on. The employer information in the first one was more then ten years out of date. The data in the second one is just plain false. Thirdly the tools you're using really should have brought to your attention that you already contacted my tsayles {-at-} Soot-n-smoke.com address and got a "sorry not interested" reply.
Your reference to my "vaulters" indicates that you probably followed the link in my July 16th reply, most likely because your somewhat upset and wanted to know just who you were dealing with. This indicates that I likely achieved goal 2. And now when my name shows up in your data, you will hopefully remember it and act on it accordingly.
At this time I have no way direct or indirect way of knowing if I achieved goal 3. (Some lessons are only achieved through repetition.) If I did/do get this point across and you act on the information, it will probably improve your success rate. This would then have been a positive response to the request for "assistance" in subject line your form letter e-mail. You're welcome.
BTW, I'm posting this conversation on my blog.
Sincerely,
Tom Sayles
Moore, Kody wrote:
Tom,I apologize for the mistake as I would not waste my time with someone that is not interested or as uncouth as yourself. I hope your vaulters see more patience and understanding from you when they make meaningless mistakes. Rest assured that nobody from our firm will waste their time on you!Best regards,Kody MooreAssociate - Civil EngineeringMBA Management, Inc14900 Conference Center Drive, Ste 300Chantilly, VA 20151703 273 0028 x 223 office701 371 3909 mobileThe information contained in this electronic message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are informed that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of the material contained herein, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MBA and purge this message.Kody --
From: Tom Sayles [mailto:tsayles@Soot-n-smoke.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:35 PM
To: Moore, Kody
Subject: Re: Tom, Can I get your assistance?
Get your face out of your !$$ [crude reference to hind end body part replaced] and pay attention to what your doing. You information is incorrect as I have never worked for MDSHA and I replied, nicely, to your inquiry last week. See my e-mail timestamped at 07/16/2007 05:02 PM PDT.
If you contact me again about these same positions, I will inform your supervisor and track down the firm that you are recruiting for and report the contact as harassment.
Disrespectfully,
Tom Sayles
Moore, Kody wrote:Tom,I am a recruiter in the land development and transportation industries, and my understanding is that you are a Project Engineer with the MDSHA. I represent many clients but am presently involved with a full service engineering company in the Baltimore area, that is looking to expand its transportation department with a team of three individuals. They include a PM with a transportation planning or design background, a highway engineer, and a traffic engineer. This firm has been in the business for over 50 years, operate our of 4 offices(2 in Maryland and 2 in Virginia), and employ around 200 individuals. The reason they are expanding is that they have multiple large projects(MD DOT, DC DOT, and MD State Hwy Admin) that need to be staffed. These are full-time positions with a company that last year was ranked in the top 25 engineering firms in the DC Metro area, recognized to be in the "Top 15 Mid-Size Engineering Firms to work for in the Nation" by CE News in 2006.If you know anyone that would be interested in an opportunity like the ones mentioned, could you please pass along the information. I would be happy to go into greater detail about the position. As always all conversations I have are completely confidential, and I appreciate any and all help you can provide.Best regards,Kody MooreAssociate - Civil EngineeringMBA Management, Inc14900 Conference Center Drive, Ste 300Chantilly, VA 20151703 273 0028 x 223 office701 371 3909 mobileThe information contained in this electronic message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are informed that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of the material contained herein, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MBA and purge this message.
Kody --
Your information is only 10.5 years out of date, as I haven't worked in Civil Engineering or for VDOT since December 1996. Current resume is here.
While I am somewhat interested in getting back into Traffic Engineering, I am not interested in relocating back to the Baltimore / Washington DC area. I'd only be interested in opportunities in the Seattle area, preferably on the eastside in cities such as: Woodinville, Bothell, Kirkland, Bellevue, Redmond, Sammamish, Issaquah, Snoqualmie, etc.
TTFN
Tom Sayles
Moore, Kody wrote:Thomas,I am a recruiter in the land development and transportation industries, and my understanding is that you are a Traffic Engineer with the VDOT. I represent many clients but am presently involved with a full service engineering company in the Baltimore area, that is looking to expand its transportation department with a team of three individuals. They include a PM with a transportation planning or design background, a highway engineer, and a traffic engineer. This firm has been in the business for over 50 years, operate our of 4 offices(2 in Maryland and 2 in Virginia), and employ around 200 individuals. The reason they are expanding is that they have multiple large projects(MD DOT, DC DOT, and MD State Hwy Admin) that need to be staffed. These are full-time positions with a company that last year was ranked in the top 25 engineering firms in the DC Metro area, recognized to be in the "Top 15 Mid-Size Engineering Firms to work for in the Nation" by CE News in 2006.Another is a 13 year old firm that is already in the top ten engineering firms in the Metro DC area. The President of the company is a former president of Greenhorne and O'mara who grew the firm from 150-200 employees to over 1800 employees. They are a growing firm and looking to bring in the right team of individuals to ensure it continues to grow. They are the General Engineering Consultants for Spotsylvania county, are the on-call engineers for Fairfax County, involved with the Dulles Rail Extension, and are the prime Contractor for the work on VDOT 495/395 hot lanes. The firm is fully networked and all employees have their own workstations. They are looking for Professional Engineers that are looking to work with side by side with the main principles in the firm on these and many other projects. These individuals have to be willing to put in the time and effort to keep this firm growing and become the premiere firm in the area.If you know anyone that would be interested in an opportunity like the ones mentioned, could you please pass along the information. I would be happy to go into greater detail about the position. As always all conversations I have are completely confidential, and I appreciate any and all help you can provide.Best regards,Kody MooreAssociate - Civil EngineeringMBA Management, Inc14900 Conference Center Drive, Ste 300Chantilly, VA 20151703 273 0028 x 223 office701 371 3909 mobileThe information contained in this electronic message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are informed that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of the material contained herein, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MBA and purge this message.
Note: I made some minor edits to this e-mail when I posted on this blog, first to eliminate a crude body part reference and second to obfuscate my e-mail address in an effort to cut down on th spam I have to wade through each day.
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